🎉 Welcome to the Replay Party!

The doors are open, and all the conversations from Beyond the Pain Cycle are yours to explore!

Whether you're catching up on interviews you missed or revisiting the ones that spoke to you, I hope you discover fresh insights, inspiration, and new possibilities along the way.

Enjoy the conversations!

Replays are available through Sunday, November 15.

Explore all 14 conversations below! Click any interview title to jump straight to that conversation.

Explore the Summit Interviews

  • Can Your Brain Unlearn Pain?

    • Daniella Deutsch, LCSW explores how the brain learns pain, how fear can keep the pain cycle going, and how Pain Reprocessing Therapy can help create new possibilities.

  • The Hormone-Pain Connection

    • Dr. Kela Smith reveals the often-overlooked connection between women's hormones, inflammation, and persistent pain—and why understanding these patterns matters.

  • Finding Glimmers: The Power of Positive Neuroplasticity

    • Simone Holderbach shares how noticing glimmers of safety, joy, and connection can help retrain the brain and gently shift our experience of pain.

  • Breaking Free from Generational Patterns

    • Brooke Deanne explores how inherited patterns, self-abandonment, and the ways we've learned to navigate life can influence our nervous system and well-being.

  • Ancient Wisdom for Modern Pain and Inflammation

    • Dr. Shivani Gupta introduces the ancient wisdom of Ayurveda and simple daily rituals that can help support the body's natural healing processes.

  • What If Your MRI Doesn't Tell the Whole Story?

    • Larry Burk, MD, CEHP challenges what we think we know about MRI findings and chronic pain, while demonstrating EFT as another way to support mind-body healing.

  • A Whole-Person Approach to Persistent Pain

    • Dr. Iris Kerin Orbuch explores endometriosis, the importance of expert medical treatment, and how a whole-person approach can help address the many dimensions of persistent pain.

  • Rediscovering Joy Beyond Pain

    • Himanshu Bharadwaj invites us to explore the difference between pleasure and joy, the role of creativity and spirituality, and how life can become bigger than pain.

  • Reprocessing Pain, Rediscovering Safety

    • Erica Walker, LMFT explains how Pain Reprocessing Therapy helps change our relationship with pain, including practical ways to communicate safety to the brain.

  • Rewiring Pain, Rediscovering Hope

    • Rachel Hollander, MD shares her personal journey through eight years of persistent pain and how brain retraining, emotional work, and everyday practices helped her rediscover hope.

  • Making Life Bigger Than Pain

    • Lara Birk, PhD explores why pain isn't always simply structural or neuroplastic, and how understanding the nervous system can help us reclaim agency in our lives.

  • From Energy to Embodiment

    • Shuvra Deb explores the connection between trauma, energy, and embodiment, offering a perspective on reconnecting with ourselves beyond our symptoms.

  • How to Keep Living Your Life Within the Reality of Pain

    • Davida Shensky shares how living with cerebral palsy has shaped her resourceful approach to obstacles, acceptance, and finding meaning in her journey.

  • From Chronic Pain to 14 Marathons in 14 Days

    • JP Horgan takes us from years of debilitating pain and limited mobility to an astonishing accomplishment: 14 marathons in 14 days.

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Can Your Brain Unlearn Pain?

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Can Your Brain Unlearn Pain
Daniella Deutsch, LCSW and Kira Michelle, CHT

In this conversation with Daniella you will discover:

  • How Pain Reprocessing Therapy approaches learned pain

  • Why fear and threat detection matter

  • A small, compassionate starting point for change

Resources:

  • Pain Reprocessing Therapy Weekly
    Free newsletter exploring PRT, chronic pain, and the latest insights. [Sign-up Here]

  • Pain Reprocessing Therapy Podcast
    Conversations and information about pain recovery. New episodes dropped monthly. [Find it Here]

Daniella Deutsch, LCSW
Founder and Executive Director

Daniella Deutsch, LCSW, co-founded the Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center and is Co-Executive Director of WellBody Psychotherapy. She trains clinicians and practitioners in Pain Reprocessing Therapy, presents internationally on chronic pain treatment, and contributes to pain research.


She is also the author of The Pain Reprocessing Therapy Workbook for Teens. As a psychotherapist, she treats chronic pain using evidence-based approaches that reduce pain and support whole mind-body wellness.

Hormones and Persistent Pain

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Hormones and Persistent Pain
Dr. Kela Smith and Kira Michelle, CHT

In this conversation with Dr. Kela you will discover:

  • How hormones communicate across body systems

    Why symptoms and standard test results can tell different stories

    Supporting foundational health and nervous-system regulation

Resources:

  • Hormone Assessment Puzzle + Free Hormone Meal Plan and Free Training
    A free 3-minute assessment with personalized results, a customized guide, meal plan, training, and suggested next steps based on hormone health goals. [Find it Here!]

Dr. Kela Smith
Women's Health Expert, Wellness Doctor

Dr. Kela Smith, PhD, is a women's health expert specializing in fertility, hormone health, perimenopause, and root-cause healing. She helps women uncover the underlying factors contributing to hormonal imbalances and reproductive health challenges.

After experiencing infertility herself and being told IVF was her best option, Dr. Kela uncovered factors affecting her fertility and went on to conceive naturally. That experience inspired her life's work helping women better understand their hormones and overall health.

She is the bestselling author of Solving Your Infertility Puzzle, host of the Hormone Puzzle Podcast, and creator of the Solving Infertility Summit. Through her clinical work and education, she has helped thousands of women make informed health decisions.

Positive Neuroplasticity: Noticing Joy, Safety & Possibility

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Can Your Brain Unlearn Pain
Simone Holderbach and Kira Michelle, CHT

In this conversation with Simone you will discover:

  • How the brain learns to detect threat and safety

  • Why glimmers of joy and ease matter

  • Making positive experiences easier to notice

Resources:

  • Collecting Glimmers: A Free 7-Day Treasure Hunt

    A gentle daily practice for noticing comfort, connection, beauty, and ease, with an interactive Glimmer Constellation, seven emails, and guided audio. [Find it Here]

Simone Holderbach
Neuroplastic Symptom Recovery Coach & Advanced Pain Reprocessing Therapy Practitioner

Simone Holderbach is a Neuroplastic Symptom Recovery Coach and Advanced Pain Reprocessing Therapy practitioner. With 15 years of experience working with chronic pain and the nervous system, she helps people understand neuroplastic symptoms, retrain protective pain responses, and rebuild trust in their bodies.

Simone has a special interest in positive affect training and what she calls positive neuroplasticity — helping the brain become better at noticing experiences of safety, ease, connection, pleasure, and possibility alongside symptom recovery.

Through her mindbodyJOY ecosystem and GLIMMER program, she translates pain neuroscience and positive affect research into practical tools for everyday life. She has trained with leaders in mind-body medicine and helps advance the field of Neuroplastic Symptom Recovery Coaching through her work with the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms.

Breaking Free from Survival Roles: Reclaiming Yourself

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Breaking Free from Survival Roles: Reclaiming Yourself
Brooke Deanne and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Brooke you will discover:

  • Returning to Yourself

  • How old beliefs can shape patterns of self-abandonment

  • Relearning self-trust and a sense of safety

  • Reconnecting with identity beyond pain

Resources:

  • The Returning Woman Community

    A private supportive space for women navigating healing and rebuilding identity after survival, with monthly nervous system support,trauma-informed education, and somatic practices.

The Returning Woman Community: [Find it here]

Password:‍ ‍Simply create your own to log-in and enter the community.

Brooke Deanne
Somatic Hypnotherapist, Abuse Recovery Expert.

Meet Brooke Deanne: Somatic Hypnotherapist and Abuse Recovery Expert. A phoenix in heels and a force of healing fire. Rising from the ashes of trauma, religious oppression, and narcissistic abuse, she's turned pain into purpose, helping others reclaim their power through nervous system work, Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT), somatic integration, and raw, soul-led truth. With one foot in science and the other in the sacred, she's dismantling old stories and leading a revolution of authenticity, embodiment, and fierce feminine freedom.

Ayurveda for Chronic Inflammation & Persistent Pain

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Ayurveda for Chronic Inflammation & Persistent Pain
Dr. Shivani Gupta and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Dr. Shivani you will discover:

  • An Ayurvedic perspective on persistent inflammation

  • The roles of digestion, sleep, and daily rhythms

  • Simple rituals and habits to explore

Resources:

  • 7-Day Inflammation Detox Challenge
    A free seven-day email challenge offering practical steps to support a healthier inflammation response, improve energy, and explore everyday food and wellness habits. [Find the Detox Challenge Here]

  • Fusionary Formulas
    Explore Dr. Shivani Gupta's Ayurvedic supplements and teas.
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Dr. Shivani Gupta
Ayurvedic Practitioner, Ph.D. in Turmeric Science, and Author of The Inflammation Code

Dr. Shivani Gupta is an Ayurvedic practitioner with a Ph.D. in turmeric science and a Master's in Ayurvedic Sciences. She blends classical Ayurveda with functional medicine to help women calm inflammation, balance hormones, and restore energy. She translates ancient wisdom into practical daily rituals, including Elemental Design(TM) personalization, Mental Inflammation(TM) resets, gut and estrobolome support, and spice-based micro-habits. Her book,

The Inflammation Code (Hay House), offers a practical, non-diet approach to addressing chronic inflammation and symptoms such as brain fog, bloating, pain, and disrupted sleep. She is also the founder of Fusionary Formulas, an Ayurvedic supplement and tea company; host of The Inflammation Code Podcast; and creator and host of the Emmy-nominated television show Vibrant Health with Dr. Shivani Gupta.

Beyond the MRI: Mind-Body Healing & EFT Tapping

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Beyond the MRI: Mind-Body Healing & EFT Tapping
Larry Burke, MD, CHEP and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Dr. Larry you will discover:

  • What imaging can and cannot tell us about pain

  • Possible links between symptoms and emotional experiences

  • Trying an EFT tapping demonstration

Resources:

  • Top 10 Mind-Body-Spirit Self-Healing Techniques — Free Video Collection

    Ten short demonstrations of mind-body-spirit exercises drawn from Dr. Burk's book Let Magic Happen.

Subscribe to Dr. Larry’s newletter using the form at the top of his webpage to receive his gift: [Find it here]

Larry Burk, MD, CEHP
Healing Imager, LLC

Larry Burk, MD, CEHP, is a retired Associate Professor of Radiology at Duke University Medical Center an co-founder of Duke Integrative Medicine. He completed his medical training at the University of Pittsburgh and was an early researcher in shoulder MRI.

With a background in musculoskeletal radiology, acupuncture, hypnosis, and energy-based approaches, he brings a unique perspective to health coaching.

He has been a Certified Energy Health Practitioner since 2010. After experiencing chronic shoulder pain and later recovering from frozen shoulder, Dr. Burk began exploring the emotional and mind-body dimensions of physical symptoms. He now coaches people experiencing frozen shoulder, persistent pain, and other chronic health conditions, and moderates the Frozen Shoulder Healing Facebook group with more than 73,000 members.

Beyond the Diagnosis:
Understanding the Bigger Picture of Pain

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Beyond the Diagnosis: Understanding the Bigger Picture of Pain
Dr. Iris Kerin Orbuch, MD

In this conversation with Dr. Iris you will discover:

  • Understanding overlapping sources of persistent pain

  • The importance of being believed and appropriately evaluated

  • How medical care and whole-person healing can complement one another

Resources:

  • Forela App — Free, currently iPhone only

    An endometriosis-focused app for tracking symptoms, understanding patterns, and supporting daily care routines. [Find it Here!]

  • Win a Copy of Beating Endo!

Dr. Iris Kerin Orbuch has generously offered copies of her book, Beating Endo: How to Reclaim Your Life from Endometriosis, to summit attendees!

  • Simply complete the form below for a chance to win. ⬇️

    Giveaway Details

  • Open to U.S. residents, age 18 or older. One entry per person. No purchase necessary. Winners will be selected at random after November 15 and notified by email.

Iris Kerin Orbuch, MD
Women's Health Expert, Wellness Doctor

Dr. Iris Kerin Orbuch is one of the nation's leading endometriosis surgeons, and she understands the disease from both sides of the operating table. Having lived with chronicendometriosis pain herself, she hasdevoted her career to ensuring patients are believed, diagnosed, and treated.

A board-certified OB/GYN and fellowship-trained excision surgeon, she founded Iris Wings, Sanctuary for Endometriosis Surgery and Wellness, in Beverly Hills. Her practice combines expert excision surgery with a whole-person approach integrating Eastern and Western medicine.

She is co-author of the bestselling Beating Endo: How to Reclaim Your Life from Endometriosis and a featured medical expert in the documentaries Endo What? and Below the Belt. She has also advocated for better care on Capitol Hill.

Her mission: endometriosis pain is real, it is not normal, and it can be treated.

Joy, Pain & the Power of Perspective

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Joy, Pain & the Power of Perspective
Himanshu Bharadwaj and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Himanshu you will discover:

  • Distinguishing inner joy from temporary pleasure

  • How attention and perspective shape experience

  • Simple breathing and mindfulness practices

Resources:

  • Himanshu’s Life Principles — “My Truths”

    Explore a collection of reflections and guiding principles on inner life, intention, optimism, creativity, and how we move through the world. [Find it here]

Himanshu Bharadwaj
Founder, Joyful Design

Himanshu Bharadwaj is a product design executive, innovation strategist, global speaker, meditation teacher, and creator of the Joyful Design philosophy, which explores how our inner state influences how we experience and shape the world.

Growing up in India in a family of yogis, Himanshu spent time in the Himalayan region and developed a deep connection to meditation, ancient wisdom, and inner life. He later built a career in product design, innovation, and human-centered thinking, helping organizations create thoughtful, meaningful experiences. His work brings together creativity, mindfulness, purpose, and the belief that joy is not simply something we find outside ourselves, but something we can cultivate through awareness and perception.

Through Joyful Design, he explores how shifting our inner state can influence relationships, work, well-being, and life's challenges.

Understanding Pain Reprocessing Therapy

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Understanding Pain Reprocessing Therapy
Erica Walker, LMFT and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Erica you will discover:

  • How fear and attention can reinforce pain patterns

  • What Pain Reprocessing Therapy can change

  • Experiencing somatic tracking during the interview

Resources:

  • Erica’s Recommended Mind-Body Healing Resources

A selected collection of books, videos, apps, and organizations she recommends to clients, offering research-informed approaches to pain, self-compassion, and healing. [Find it here]

Erica Walker, LMFT, is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist specializing in chronic pain, anxiety, and trauma. She previously served as Clinical Director and supervising therapist at the Pain Psychology Center in Los Angeles, where she helped train practitioners in Pain Reprocessing Therapy. Throughout her career,

Erica has spoken with well over a thousand individuals experiencing chronic pain and other persistent symptoms, giving her a unique perspective on the mind-body connection and the many ways pain can affect people's lives.

Drawing on her professional experience and her own healing journey, Erica is passionate about helping people better understand their symptoms, change their relationship with pain, and reclaim their lives.

Erica Walker, LMFT

Rewiring Pain, Rediscovering Hope

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Rewiring Pain, Rediscovering Hope
Rachel Hollander, MD, MPH and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Dr. Rachel you will discover:

  • Her recovery from years of debilitating symptoms

  • How emotions and expectations can affect pain

  • Building self-trust and a personalized path forward

Resources:

  • 5-Minute Readiness for Recovery Self-Assessment
    A free assessment to identify priorities for self-healing and receive a personal Readiness for Recovery Score. [Find it here]

  • 20% Off Services & Programs
    A special 20% discount on Rachel’s services and programs. [Check out Dr. Rachel’s Services here]

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Rachel Hollander, MD, MPH, is a former family physician who recovered from approximately eight years of debilitating repetitive-motion arm pain, chronic heart palpitations, and difficulty swallowing using neuroplastic approaches.

Following recovery, Rachel trained with Dr. Howard Schubiner in techniques based on Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) and Emotional Awareness & Expression Therapy (EAET). She founded Hollander Holistic Health, a virtual coaching practice helping clients worldwide explore mind-body approaches to persistent pain, fatigue, and other symptoms.

Board-certified in Family Medicine since 2011, Rachel earned a Master of Public Health degree in 2012 and practiced primary care for over a decade in California. Today she combines medical training, personal recovery experience, and mind-body coaching.

Rachel Hollander, MD, MPH
Hollander Holistic Health

Making Life Bigger Than Pain

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Making Life Bigger Than Pain
Lara Birk, PhD and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Lara you will discover:

  • Why pain can involve structural and learned components

  • Finding agency while symptoms are still present

  • Making life bigger through meaningful activities

Resources:

  • Soothing Your Distress — Free Guided Somatic Tracking Practice
    A gentle audio for when pain or symptoms become intense, guiding listeners to observe sensations, respond with greater ease, and find a little calm.
    [Find the Free Somatic Tracking Practice Here]

Lara Birk, PhD
The Sage Practice

Lara Birk, PhD, has lived with persistent pain for 35 years following a rare medical emergency at age 16. A delayed diagnosis of acute compartment syndrome led to 17 surgeries that saved her legs but left lasting physical damage.

Lara went on to become a sociology professor, researching people's experiences with persistent pain. After discovering pain neuroscience and mind-body approaches, she became a coach and teacher, as well as Curable's expert in structural symptoms.

Today she helps people build lives bigger than their pain. Her story even helped an Australian physiotherapist recognize acute compartment syndrome in time to save a patient's leg — an example of how sharing experiences can change lives. Lara's mission is to turn her experience into work that eases suffering and empowers others to live fully again.

From Energy to Embodiment

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From Energy to Embodiment
Shuvra Deb and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Shuvra you will discover:

  • Her journey from law to a different understanding of healing

  • How she uses intuition and energy practices

  • A guided light-cycling visualization

Resources:

  • Reiki, Mindset Tools & Light Cycling

    A practical introduction to Reiki and distance healing, with simple energy, anxiety-management, and mindset practices for reconnecting with the body and cultivating self-awareness [Find it Here!]

Shuvra Deb is a former barrister and international litigation attorney turned Shamanic Reiki Master Practitioner, confidence coach, and professional speaker. After seventeen years in high-pressure legal environments,

Shuvra experienced firsthand how stress, self-doubt, and deeply held patterns can affect our relationships with ourselves and our bodies. Her transformation began after surviving Category 5 Hurricane Irma in the British Virgin Islands, an experience that led her through trauma, PTSD, changes in identity, and a rebuilding of self-trust.

Today Shuvra combines Shamanic Reiki, energy healing, practical coaching, and research-informed mindset approaches. She explores the relationship between mind, body, and energetic self, and how releasing old patterns can make space for greater self-trust, empowerment, and personal transformation.

Shuvra Deb
Shamanic Reiki Master Practitioner

How to Keep Living Your Life Within the Reality of Pain

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How to Keep Living Your Life Within the Reality of Pain
Davida Shensky and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with Davida you will discover:

  • Learning to advocate for your needs

  • Adapting activities without abandoning your goals

  • Rediscovering purpose and identity beyond symptoms

Resources:

  • The Pain Kit — Free E-Book
    A free assessment to identify priorities for self-healing and receive a personal Readiness for Recovery Score. [Find it here]

Davida Shensky
Career & Personal Development Strategy Coach

Davida Shensky didn't just grow up with a disability — she grew up inside one, navigating chronic pain, invisible battles, and a world that wasn't built with her in mind. What the medical system couldn't give her, she built herself: a toolkit of resilience, psychology, and radical self-advocacy that transformed her deepest struggles into a source of strength.

Today, Davida is a coach, strategist, and speaker who helps people with chronic pain, disability, and invisible illness move beyond simply surviving their diagnosis and begin building a full, purposeful life.

She didn't wait to get better to start living. And she doesn't believe you should either. Founder of the Career Performance Institute and creator of Pain to Purpose: The Disability Resilience Blueprint, Davida helps others turn lived experience into meaningful transformation.

From Chronic Pain to
14 Marathons in 14 Days

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From Chronic Pain to 14 Marathons in 14 Days
JP Horgan and Kira Michelle, CHt

In this conversation with JP you will discover:

  • His path from debilitating pain to endurance events

  • Building belief through small actions and evidence

  • Mindfulness, compassion, and reclaiming possibility

Resources:

  • The 6 Phase Protocol
    An 18-minute guided meditation practice exploring compassion, gratitude, forgiveness, future vision, imagining a perfect day, and loving support. [Find it here]

JP Horgan
Professional Life Coach and Motivational Speaker

JP Horgan is a coach, speaker, and lifelong student of human potential. Drawing on positive psychology, mindfulness, behavior change, and his own lived experience, he helps people discover what they're capable of — and take their next step. After facing debilitating pain and significant health challenges, JP explored new approaches to physical and emotional well-being.

His journey eventually led him from relying on numerous medications to completing 14 marathons in 14 days. Today he brings together practical strategies to help others build resilience, reconnect with their potential, and create meaningful change. JP doesn't believe in telling people who to become. He believes in helping them discover it for themselves.

The information presented at this summit is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to serve as medical advice. It should not be used for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease, nor is it a substitute for professional care. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.